HELLO,
ISN’T ANYBODY FLABBERGASTED BY THIS 8.23 FLOATER THAT ADRIANO DID IN HIS HEAT (AT 0:35) TO BEAT OWEN’S TURNS AND SPINS AND GRABS AND BRAZZO CLAIMS, ALL OF WHICH WERE OF BETTER QUALITY AND VARIETY?!?! I AM VERY UPSET RIGHT NOW AND WILL BE PASSING OUT DETENTIONS TO ALL MY STUDENTS AND WRITING ALL EMAILS WITH CAPITAL LETTERS TODAY TO EXPRESS MY ANGER AND PASSIVE AGGRESSION AND FRUSTRATION WITH THE ASP JUDGES PANEL. OWEN SHOULD’VE THROWN HIS SURFBOARD THROUGH THE FUCKEN PLEXIGLASS JUDGES WINDOW AND FUCKED ALL THEIR WIVES SAMBA STYLE ON THE SAND AFTER THAT HEAT, COMPLETELY WARRANTED.
FOREVER YOURS,
BLACK JACKP.S. I AM IN NO WAY UPSET WITH ADRIANO. I ACTUALLY LIKE HIM AND ALL OF HIS TINY LATIN MAN PASSION. AND I HOPE TO HANG OUT WITH A BRAZILIAN GIRL AND DRINK CAPARINHAS AT WOODY’S THIS WEEKEND.
The comments thread on the Heats on Demand page is alive with similar, though less entertaining, discussion.
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How bout we just have equal judging at every stop on the tour? How bout we have the comps at the best spots in the world for SURFING, not spectators? I know its about the business of surfing and expanding the amount of people in the water, profits etc. but at what point do we lose the ACTUAL SURFER?? More stops like Brasil and bells will make me lose interest. Plain and simple, and I cant be the only one out there. How can we be watching slop Rio when we have forgone such classic locations as G-Land, Cloudbreak, Maldives, Deserts, Lakey???
I’m an aussie and I’d be prepared to see Bells fall by the wayside in favour of a better spot, why can’t we do the same with Rio? If Billabong really want to promote surfing in Brazil, then why not show the best waves in there?? It’s the bigger, more dangerous waves we all wanna see, dont show me something i can walk down the end of the street and surf myself for fucks sake. Selling surfing is selling escapism. Rip curl gets it, why doesn’t the ASP? These are professionals, show them competing professionally at a level we cant comprehend, then you will get viewers. This point ties in with the judging of Adriano’s floater too. If i wanna watch floaters I’ll switch off the computer I’ll go and do one myself, you should be promoting progressive surfing.
@Spud: Slater won the CT in Brazil against Adriano with a floater where he scored a 9.0 on a half foot wave. Funny… Don’t remember you or anyone else in the complaining about that score.
7,5 to a little air to Owen is too much , no ??
Owen surfed weak and powerless in the maneuvers , and chose small waves ! The judges are correct !
Guess you are all right! The judgment wasn’t the best, but I’d say it was fair, considering the whole event and all the other floaters that scored well. Now, what’s up with surfing to publish this article this way!? You are getting farther and farther from a descent unbiased journalism. I said that a few weeks ago, after the article on Reuben whatever his name is, from UK. And then another racist comment, and now that? There are many ways to fire up a discussion without being that biased. I understand that coming from randoms talking blindly in web-forums, but that coming from a respect magazine is just ridiculous. And don’t say “it’s not biased” or “not racist” Swallow that, because it is… and there is no greater stupidity in the world. Judge the surfing, and all that shit you talk about, leave your racial preferences at home… And yes, I am Brazilian.. and yes, I am passionate.. thank you very much!
Lets be real about this. Owen’s 6.6 was pretty uneventful and the score was indicative. First of all, his first turn was clearly executed without much speed and power and was not performed in a critical section of the wave. The lack of any spray clearly evidences this. The second turn was more of a check turn and likely had a de minimus bearing on the overall score. And finally, the air – a relatively simple stock frontside grab air executed on a weak part of the wave without much height and difficulty for surfers at this level.
But by the same token, Adriano’s floater, while clearly performed on a critical section of a larger wave with heaps of speed and flow, was not and should have not received a score of 8.23. The judges claimed to have adjusted the scoring scale according to conditions that day but there were waves ridden during the morning that either equaled or bettered Adriano’s while failing to garner a score above 8.0. This wasn’t a case of Owen beating Adriano but rather a case where the judging scale and practice exhibits its inherent flaws – human emotion cannot be removed whether you like it or not – and the fact that a hometown boy surfing incredibly during the whole event, who was taking risk after risk on his waves to the enjoyment of all of Rio, had evidently seaped into the collective psyche of of the judging panel and the score was a clear reflection of that. Ultimately, its what makes for good drama in this sport we love.
nik says:
May 22, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Wanna know what was risky about ADS floater?
You should ask Bourez, Alejo, Ross and CJ… They all ended up with neck problems after floaters in Barra’s wave.
Heck, Bourez and CJ even had to be addmited to a near by hospital.
Ok, ok… Let’s think a little on the hole contest: didn’t Joel (who made an inapropriate comment on twitter) get scores on excelent range by doing floaters? How about the Spartan? Didn’t this maneuver played a major role in some sections of Bell’s contest?
So, I think the problem is this: none of you guys can cope with the up and comming brazilian surfing. Those athlets aren’t “support actors” anymore. They can beat aussies and americans fair and square too, like Adriano did at Gold Coast event against Taj Burrow. Even the event’s heats on demand tried to hide the fact that Adriano actually won that heat. But, what do you have to say about that? So, the problem is not that heat or the criteria. The problem is to have a aussie been beaten by a “brazzo”. This is lame.
The difference is you guys can do lots of noise on twitter and facebook and, unfortunatelly, ASP must answer those whips and complains. Sad.
One more thing: we are a third world country (an up and rising economy – do you know what does BRIC mean? We didn’t suffer with the last 2008 crisis. How about you guys in Australia and USA?) But we never, ever, will do no harm to a judge o athlet for a heat result. Ever. This nonsense you guys are talking (judges afraid, money in the judges pockets, etc.) are disrespectfull. We will be the next Soccer World Cup AND Olimpic Games (2014/2016) and we are ready to rock and roll with pride and joy.
And last, but not least: Jadson won a contest last year. Owen made more points and finished better on rankings. Wich one was more impressive? Funny question, because I can bet that Owen would give up the title of “rookie of the year” to be able to win a contest in front of his home crowd. So, again, wich result is more impressive? To win a contest in your rookie year or be “consistent”?
So many questions…
Peace and have fun surfing.
ha I wonder where Jadson won his only comp? Oh yeah it was in Brazil too!! Wow Brazillian surfers must only perform well in Brazillian waves or something. Wonder who’ll win next year?
relax people, its only one event
Yes!! It was in Brazil… BUT against who? Oh, yeah, that old guy with ten world titles. Yes, that one who every aussie shit their pants when meet him in a final heat (like Mick and TB, so many time in Goldie, Bells, Jeffreys…). And yes, Jadson took him down!
Oh, and Adriano too, in firing/pumping Bells (and, I guess you “The Keamal” remember, it was by a combination of two waves!) HA.
i hope hes not refering to the woodys in escondido???, scetchy…
Mr. BLACK JACK
I´m sorry, but what kind of website leave you write some shit like this? When TAJ won Adriano in the Gold Coast, ( sure adriano won) why didn´t you write about that heat???? Is there an explanation??? I don´t think so.
That’s all very funny!!! There’s been a lot of talk about Adriano and Owen heat since the end of RIO’s WT. Even the ASP came up to justify the criteria. And do you know why all this? Just because an australian lost to an brazzo as you guys like to call. But when Adriano got robbed to Taj Burrow in the quarterfinal of Snapper a couple of mouths ago NOBODY WROTE A LETTER. That was an absurd result and any surfer in the world knows Adriano won that heat. Once again no discussion on the web was posted. A few years ago, also, Taj was robbed in the Trestles final when he lost to Kelly, in USA, and again, nobody complained.
That’s when you see that everything in the surf industry, and therefore, including the media, gravitates among USA and AUSTRALIA and when you have a different contingent of competitors, coming from another country, it’s not as well accepted as the people likes to show and say it is.
Just re-watched the Adriana/Taj heat from Snapper and I would agree, Adriano got hosed on that.
So let’s just call it even now, eh?
Yep fair enough. Saw that heat from the rocks, De Souza deserved the win. How bout just impartial judging at every comp? Or do we wanna end up like Cycling, Soccer etc. with no credibility?
Peace, guys! the surf need responsable support by midia, sponsors, competitors and all more involved. Also the surf need respect, independent countries you are. It´s time to evolution in ASP, demanding efforts to create a new global vision about our sport. All we love the surf. This is matter than others things. Peace!
(sorry for my bad english language).
Jorge Jojó
rootsland2001@yahoo.com.br
Brazil.
This means surfers in the late 80′s were ahead of their time.
FLOATERS are 8 points.
How much is getting up on a wave? 5 points
With a Brazzo claima added, 6 points.
Hey Red (neck) Gecko!
You know what? Why should we listen to this people who one of their biggest athlets of all time (after been drunk and stuff) is now shaking his butts in the infamous “Dancing with the stars”. Gimme a brake, you guys are so funny!!
And for the record: check who had the highest score of the all event in goldie/2011; who knocked down Slater last Bells event; who won the last Billabong XXL.
Do you know what you aussies really have? The biggest crowd in the hole world. Thanks god you can’t see beyond your backyard so you don’t travel too much, otherwise it would be a fucking problem around the world.
Marcio,
Why does Adriano claim 3 foot floaters?
dude the ones crowding up the lineup on the goldy are Brazzos. You got so many people there youre spilling over into our country. and while we’re on the subject, why do brazzos only surf in packs of 5 or more, and snake, and drop in more than any other nationality? For sure there are cool brazzos, but you boys need to chill out in the surf. I know there are dickhead aussies as well who do the same, but imagine if brasil was packed with aussies snaking, dropping in and shit? thats why some people here have an attitude towards brazzos. 8/10 that i see have no style, claim lame moves, snake, drop in and generally just stink up the surf.
just sayin
You will understand this, playa hate-a, when you stop to see the wave or move itself and get the athlet’s feeling trying to do his best. It’s not about the wave, man. It’s about getting the score needed or feeling that you are trying your best. After all, we all claimed our first wave/drop/barrel/maneuver, didn’t we? It’s the feeling of been an athlet in any sport, scoring a goal in soccer, for example: eventhough your team wouldn’t win that match, scoring a goal is outstanding. So, that’s why he claim. It’s passion, not the size of the wave/maneuver.
And Keamal, brother, people undereducated with bad behavior just don’t have any flag behind then. They can be from Brasil, Australia, USA, anywhere. I travel alone or with my wife and I know lots of people from all over the world that do the same. And I’ve seen in my trips aussies who travel in packs and do all kind of shit in the lineup (most of then in Indo, wich I think you guys see it as your backyard, wich is so disrespectfull). Let alone when they start to drink and become a bunch of drunken idiots, talking loud and shit. But the question is: are all australians like this? I don’t think so. So give the shot and try to know better about people you find in your way.
Adriano won. it was fair. owens waves were smaller, less critical. and the brazzos are coming… better watch out….
HERE, SURFFING MAG, THAT’S HOW YOU WRITE A GOOD ARTICLE ABOUT THIS ISSUE!!! LEARN WITH TRACKS MAGAZINE, PLEASE!!!!
http://www.tracksmag.com/201105263107/Blogs/Tracks-Blog/%E2%80%98FLOATERGATE%E2%80%99-OPENS-OLD-STYLE-WOUND-BLOG.html
Pretty amazing backside floater.
Drive down the line, go on top of breaking section, and land.
Over-dramatize your landing, get an 8 score.
Announcers in Portuguese “Adriano, floater…..” The crowd erupts.
Meanwhile, anyone with 2 cents of surfing would just wonder what the excitement was about.
When Adriano lost a heat, he don´t coment it. He accept as normal at contest. But, when an aussie or american lost a heat, they coments in hard words against competitor that wins the heat. This is a serious problem in World Tour. This situation about Adriano is not good for surf image in world. You all people need to accept the win or lost a heat, because is natural situation, independent countries you are. I remember that some brazilian surfers already suffered extreme violence in years ago, for example when Neco Padaratz was hit by Sunny Garcia, in extreme violence agression. The ASP never punish the agressor. No one coments about that in here, no one coment 1 word about this situation. Why? anything is wrong. Please read the text about ASP in waves brazilian site: http://www.waves.com.br and you will better understand the situation about this themes, including apartheid, ASP and others. Please see it on waves site. Let the surfers ride the life, let the stop this bad coments. Peace!
From Jorge Jojó
Personal surfer, from Brazil
rootsland2001@yahoo.com.br
The text about ASP, Adriano, Apartheid and more, is signed by Tulio Brandao, title: The end of apartheid. Site: http://www.waves.com.br
This is a great text to all peoples who want to see a good days for surf, competion, suported by respect all nations envolved.